# (2023-06-04) (2-Part Series) On understanding Perception! tags:: [[Sanna|Perception]], #dhamma/advanced > [!info] 2 Video on how to understand [[Sanna|Perceptions]] per [[Snp4.11 Kalahavivādasutta]] ##### Part 1 - How to understand perception to get rid of perception? ([Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx10seIp9sE)) ^v1 ##### Part 2 - **(BEST)** Understanding perception at the deepest level ([Youtube](https://youtu.be/mhcsAmdfXtg)) #dhamma/best ^v2 - Fantastic talk on [[Vinnana]] in terms of experiencer and experienced, based on [[Snp4.11 Kalahavivādasutta]] - i think i understood the difference between 8th and the 9th jhana — in the 8th jhana the **"experiencer"** exists, hence the feeling and perception exists, ON the "experiencer"!! #eryu/learning - and by removing the experiencer ("sanni"), both the perception ("sanna") are also removed - **_Witnessing consciousness_** is like the **_"==Rear view mirror=="_**, where everything falls upon it, but nothing is perceived and/or grasped. #simile