# (2023-02-03) {Vilas Video} All about [[Jhana|Jhānas]] and how to achieve it? | BEST for Eryu Tags:: #dhamma/best/for-me, [[Jhana|Jhāna]], [[Sila|Sīla]], #chat-with-vilas, #Matt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oSg6UM2x5A - Superb talk on how to establish [[Jhana|Jhāna]]!! **Especially helpful for me!!** - First meeting with #Matt! ##### 5 precepts & Hindrances (Doubts and Restlessness) - FIRST, [[Sila]] needs to be established - It'll take ~2 weeks for it to be very strong - @@ Goal: You'll feel a **significant Expansion in the heart**, and a **"cool" feeling**. - First, not harming or killing ANY living beings - @@ ==You have to do [[Samatha]] (establishing the mind Only on the 1st precept), [[Vipassana]] (investigate Why) and [[Anupassana]] on **WHY you would not kill or harm anyone under ANY situation**== ^24g6xn - **@@** E.g. you observe and become compassionate towards the **mosquito** (near you), who has to **now suffer due to seeking for food**, else, it'll **die**. - This can take 3-4 hours to establish. - Using the "discretion" as a meditation object, it **brings me joy** and brings me to **1st jhana**. - It also brings [[Ekaggata|Ekaggatā]] because I **feel "one" with the mosquito.** (Through the loving kindness practice) - I can do this for **days**! Until it's fully established. - The **mosquito will NOT bite**, once you are established. - **@@@@ [[Vicikiccha|Doubts]] and [[Uddhacca-kukkucca|Restlessness]] are friends — when one comes, the other will come!** #eryu/learning - ![[Uddhacca-kukkucca#^friends-restless-doubt]] - @@ Eventually you'll have **byapada** — you **get frustrated that things don't work**, which **brings more doubt** and then one quits.. - @@ If I have a thought of **"would this even work?"** It means I now have a **Doubt**, it means **I don't have enough faith in Buddha/Dhamma/Sangha** - @@ When a **doubt (thought) arises**, it **==immediately breaks the samadhi==**, and you **==immediately have restlessness==.** - The moment I have a doubt, then it's not going to work!! - **@@** So long there is [[Uddhacca-kukkucca|Restlessness]], the **Jhana cannot happen!**! - ==@@@@ If I cannot get into Jhana, it means I have **either Doubt or Restlessness!!!**== #eryu/learning/major - Without figuring those 2 things out, I can do **every damn things** in the world, **it not going to work.** - Stealing (adinadana), would be more difficult and takes **5-7 days to fully established**. - E.g. including taking "peeks" at pretty woman. - **@@** It takes **1 full month to establish all 5 precepts!!** - @@@@ ==If we establish the **[[Sikkhapada|5 Precepts]] FULLY**, we can get into **1st to 3rd jhana easily, at ANY time!!**== - @@ When we break the sila, we cannot into Jhana, and then the **Restless** is the result - **@@@@** Eryu: this **includes almost perfect [[Sati]] and [[Indriya Samvara|Indriya Bhāvanā]]** (level 1/3) #eryu/learning/major - Vilas: Yes, by following all the steps as indicated in [[DN2 Sāmaññaphalasutta]] ##### (Remaining) - Q: Eryu: When i do [[Indriya Samvara|Indriya Bhāvanā]], i can still get "**Pleasure" from tasting the Sugar**, did i fail? - **@@@@** Vilas: No. This is the **2nd Level** (see [[Dhamma/Suttas/MN/MN152 Indriyabhāvanāsutta.md#2. Practicing Trainee (sekho hoti pāṭipado)|MN152]]) of doing it — eventually you'll get **"==Disgusted=="** because you have to **KEEP ON doing it AGAIN and AGAIN** (because the sense keeps going away)!! #eryu/learning - This is fully established in Anagami. - You'd feel like cutting this eye and throw it out because it keeps going here and there, and once the sight is seen it's immediately gone.. 😂😂 - @@ The **1st Level** is simple to stop tasting it as a **"Nice Chocolate"** but **ONLY as sugar**. - @@ And keep on watching everything as a **3rd party (i.e. camera)** and **not creating any "object"** in the mind. - The 3rd level (Arahat level) is when only the **"tongue" is tasting the salt**, but **NOT "I" am tasting it**! - Q: Eryu: What is the **Motivations** to keep such a high standard? #dhamma/why/vilas ^ucqq4w 1. Death contemplation — this **life will go at anytime**, and the senses can get established at anywhere (Eryu: And also, Painful rebirths are in the samsara are WAY MORE) - When the **fear** sets in (due to practice), the **Indriya** gets **closed** 3. @@ I've **NEVER experienced (true) pleasure**, all I had experienced is **senses** — which is **vexation / anxiety** 4. @@ There's something **BEYOND what I know** — I want to know it completely > [!error] Eryu's Mistake — Without a BOAT!!!! > - **@@@@** Vilas: **==Eryu, you're trying to end the journey WITHOUT a Boat!!!!==** #vilas/guidance/major , #eryu/mistake/major > - The boat is Sila, Indriya Bhavana, Sati, etc., as per described in [[DN2 Sāmaññaphalasutta]] > - @@ Vilas: you've **LEARNED everything about a boat**, how it works, how to drive it, what to peddle it, blah..., BUT you **DON'T HAVE A BOAT**! > - that causes you restless! > - @@ you only need **ONE thing** in Dhamma! > - @@ When you get a **==PhD in Dhamma==**, you **learned 3 things — 1) restless, 2) anxious 3) just empty blabber..** > - Eryu: wow... My boat is **leaking everywhere**!!!! ^eryu-mistake-no-boat > [!error] Eryu's Mistake — [[Uddhacca-kukkucca|Restlessness]] > - Vilas: you desire to know **TOO MUCH Dhamma**, and it keeps you **Restless** #eryu/mistake/major > - @@@@ Vilas: **You're missing what "RELAXES" you** #vilas/guidance, #eryu/learning/major > - **==Just Relax!!!!==** #eryu/practice/change > - Vilas: You are already **DEDICATED** — you do not need more dedication. > - I made the **same mistake** made by **==Potthila==**, where he did not **practice samadhi**!! In [[Dhp282 Poṭṭhilattheravatthu (Potthila the Empty-Head)]] #eryu/insight/practice ^eryu-mistake-restless > [!error] Eryu's Mistake — I'm "intoxicated" by Dhamma!!! > - I am "intoxicated" by being a "Dhamma follower" and **getting recognized** as such, and thinking I'm **superior**!! While not actually **being mindful** and practicing!!! > - I.e. I'm failing the [[Sikkhapada|5th Precept]]!! > - also like **Potthila**, I'm intoxicated by the **pride of "great learning"** and not really practicing with mindfulness! > - #eryu/mistake/major, #eryu/insight/practice ^eryu-mistake-majja