# (2026-10-28) Vilas on [[Hiri & Ottappa]]
> [!Quote] Vilas on Hiri and Ottappa
> - let us put it simple
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> - hiri = moral shame leading to dread or fear of wrongdoing. If we do not want to make that like this, we can just keep moral shame.
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> - Thus, let us reframe it like this in order to remove confusion:
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> - **Hiri** — wholesome moral shame / conscience **rooted in ==self-respect==**; shrinking from bodily, verbal and mental misconduct because it is unworthy and unbecoming.
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> - **Ottappa** — **also has shame** but is **more concerned with doing unworthy activities:** “If I do this, there will be harmful consequences—for myself, others, my citta and the path—and hence I will not do it.”
> - Sometimes, it looks like they can be used interchangeably since they are closely related.
> - Another way to put **Ottappa** would be: wholesome moral dread / compunction—recognizing the danger of bodily, verbal and mental misconduct and caring about the harmful consequences that follow.
> - So, when I said what I said today, it was about the **deeper aspect** rather than the grammatical aspect of it.
> - **==Hiri is the internal aspect and ottappa would be the external aspect==.**
> - Let us go through AN7.6, which precisely explains how the Buddha puts it:
> - https://depth-of-dhamma.net/an7.6